DeTomaso Mailing List: June 97, Message #221
     



From: "Charles F Engles Jr." <engles@qns.com>

Subject: Fw: Bob Woodhouse's brakes, wheelhouse brace, etc

Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:36:54 -0500



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> From: Charles F Engles Jr. <engles@qns.com>

> To: Shane F. Ingate <pantera@shiseis.com>

> Subject: Re: Bob Woodhouse's brakes, wheelhouse brace, etc

> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 8:29 PM

> 

> Dear Team Pantera,

> 

> 	Searching the dusty synapses and biomemory chips for details on Bob's

> 1994(?) appearance at Hallett,  I recall that Bob had installed a "poor

> man's ABS" system between the master cylinder (stock, I can't remember?)

> and the calipers.  Somehow it decreased the initial big pressure

hydraulic

> wave and minimized lockup.  Bob was honest and said he couldn't swear it

> was doing anything, but the brochure claimed it was.  Bob's comment was

> that any caliper or brake that you could "lock" was adequate the slow the

> wheel and therefore, car.  He felt that anything beyond that was

overkill. 

> Maybe Bob has a point and he certainly demonstrated that his system was

> adequate to me at the track, however, remember that Bob's forte is

> autocross.  I do not think that this quickly completed, high intensity,

> brief motorsport places as much stress on the brakes as does track

driving

> ( yes, I know that I just said that he damn well at the track vs. the

> Shelbys).   So, maybe Bob is right, but there really are better brake

> systems than his quasi-stock set-up.   For details on his set up, I defer

> to Bob himself.

> 

> 

> 					For what its worth,     Chuck Engles

> 

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> > From: Shane F. Ingate <pantera@shiseis.com>

> > To: detomaso@wgate.com

> > Subject: Bob Woodhouse's brakes, wheelhouse brace, etc

> > Date: Monday, June 16, 1997 11:48 AM

> > 

> > Chuck Engles wrote:

> > 	> If my memory serves me correctly, I believe that Bob Woodhouse with

> his

> > 	> SCCA Pantera and associated trick suspension parts and sway bars

uses

> a)

> > 	> stock calipers and rotors and b) the stock wheelhouse brace.

> > 	> I have seen Bob run rings around the Shelbys at Hallett.

> > 

> > Yeah, I have seen Bob at work too and he is FAST and SMOOTH!  Does he

> really

> > use stock brake calipers?  If so, I would like to know what he has done

> to

> > them to make them work so well.  If we can find out, there is no need

to

> > go to the big-$$$ expense of the Wilwood etc routes.  Brakes are high

> > on my "to do" list.

> > 

> > Thanks in advance,

> > 	Shane Ingate in San Diego



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