DeTomaso Mailing List: July 97, Message #43
     



From: "Cristiano Rossi" <Rossi@image.dk>

Subject: Sv: Sv: Gas nozzle kick-off

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:23:53 +0200



In Europe we do not (yet) use fuel pistols with large vacuum hoses around

to regain the gasoline vapors. They are just oldfashioned pistols that do

not take so much space, and they can quite easily be used to refuel an

inside filler tank even with the rear hood down.

Cristiano Rossi

thpnma 02869



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> Fra: Brock C Tella <brockctella@juno.com>

> Til: Rossi@image.dk

> Cc: stefan.jelvin@era.ericsson.se; detomaso@wgate.com

> Emne: Re: Sv: Gas nozzle kick-off

> Dato: 2. juli 1997 22:37

> 

> I would love to see a demonstration of refueling an inside filler tank

> with the rear hood down.

> On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:30:37 +0200 "Cristiano Rossi" <Rossi@image.dk>

> writes:

> >I am happy to be able to tell you that I don't share this problem that 

> >is

> >obviously very common. The reason why I don't have the problem is 

> >probably

> >because I have the "old-fashioned" filler neck inside the engine bay. 

> >To

> >ease the access to the tank  (and to make it possible for others to 

> >enjoy

> >the sight of my engine compared to their 1600 cc Toyota's etc.), I 

> >usually

> >open the rear hood while filling the tank. It can always take the fuel 

> >at

> >full power until completely full. The disadvantage of this early-model

> >filler is, according to some rumors, that it is possible to spill some 

> >fuel

> >on the read-glowing exhaust and cause a major fire. So you who have 

> >the old

> >filler like I have: Take very much care when filling your tanks.

> >Sincerely,

> >Cristiano M. Rossi

> >Copenhagen, Denmark

> >thpnma 02869

> >-------

> >> Fra: Stefan Jelvin <stefan.jelvin@era.ericsson.se>

> >> Til: detomaso@wgate.com

> >> Emne: Gas nozzle kick-off

> >> Dato: 2. juli 1997 21:13

> >> 

> >> Hi all,

> >> 

> >> This is my first contribution to the list and I'd like to thank 

> >Shane

> >> for the excellent initiative and all of you for making at least the

> >> first part of a new day at work a joy.

> >> 

> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 tjpadula wrote:

> >> 

> >> >It happened again this morning. I'm driving the Pantera to work 

> >today,

> >because

> >> >my daily driver is off getting its A/C fixed, and I went to a gas

> >station

> >> >on the way. Once again, I worked the gas pump nozzle bellows around 

> >the

> >> >various bits on the filler of my car (it's a '74, with the usual 

> >filler

> >> >on the finned sail panel). Once again, I had to hold the trigger by 

> >hand

> >> >and try to fill the tank vvvveeeerrrryyyy ssssllloooowwwlllyyy to 

> >try to

> >> >keep the nozzle from kicking off.

> >> >...........

> >> >Is there supposed to be a tank vent of some kind? Wheere is it, 

> >what's

> >it

> >> >look like, is this a common problem? Any other theories?

> >> >..........

> >> 

> >> Having owned my P for close to 17 years I can testify to that this 

> >is

> >> probably a common problem. I've never filled my tank in one go. It

> >> always takes a number of kick offs and one or two backsplashes.

> >> Twisting and turning the handle sometimes helps the situation. This 

> >is

> >> the strategy of most gas station attendants in Germany (at non

> >> self-service stations. We don't have those in Sweden!). But their

> >> efforts are mostly all in vain, they end up saying strange words in

> >> german and splashing gas on the car. And these guys also have some

> >> "filling" practice!

> >> 

> >> My educated guess is that there is no vent or other gadget missing 

> >or

> >> blocked on your car. There is only the tank, the filler neck on the

> >> tank, and a short hose to the filler cap. And the not so 

> >scientifically

> >> designed filler neck is creating the awkward filling situation.

> >> 

> >> Stefan Jelvin, Sweden '75 Pantera '29 A-Ford

> >



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