DeTomaso Mailing List: September 97, Message #206
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All, Also, recall that Dennis Quella at Pantera Performance Center has the taller 5th gear (part and installation) available for $1500. He says its a much cheaper and easier solution to the 4.22:1 gear ratio. Chuck Engles ---------- > From: Cristiano Rossi <Rossi@image.dk> > To: bo.grims@swipnet.se > Cc: detomaso@wgate.com > Subject: Sv: Sv: ZF taller 5th > Date: Friday, September 05, 1997 5:02 PM > > Since Mad Dog talks about "a Butfoy 5th tall gear", I would try the > following address: > > Roy A. Butfoy > 2824 S. Willis, Santa Ana > California, 92705 U.S.A. > Tel (714) 250 1798 > Fax (714) 250 1281 > > By the way, the price that Roy Butfoy asked in june 1996 for a 3.77:1 final > drive was US$ 2.400,-. > > Please keep me informed, I too think that a taller 5th gear would be an > interesting solution to keep up the autobahn speeds without stressing too > much the engine with constant high revs, and without sacrificing the > acceleration because of a taller overall ratio. > > Cristiano Rossi > thpnma 02869 > > ---------- > > Fra: bo grims <bo.grims@swipnet.se> > > Til: Rossi@image.dk > > Cc: detomaso@wgate.com > > Emne: Re: Sv: ZF taller 5th > > Dato: 6. september 1997 01:36 > > > > agree! It's much better and probably more fun. Where can I find it? > > Bo > > > > Cristiano Rossi wrote: > > > > > > The ZF DS 25 comes with 3 final ratios: The normal, 4.22:1, the more > high, > > > from my memory I think it is 4.02:1, and the "Le Mans ratio" of 3.77:1. > Roy > > > Butfoy's price for another final drive is about a couple of thousand > > > dollars. > > > > > > I had never heard of the higher 5th gear too, but it appears to exist: > Look > > > at Shane's cyber registry from august 1st.,1997. You can see here that > Mad > > > Dog plans to mount a Butfoy 5th tall gear. > > > > > > I think it will be a better idea to mount a taller 5th gear than to > mount a > > > higher final ratio, otherwise you will kill the performance with the > high > > > gearing. Of my two almost identical Volvo's, my wifes is quicker than > mine, > > > because mine (that is newer and has more HP) has been killed by a > taller > > > gearing, probably to save some drops of gas. > > > > > > A higher 5th gear will be a good improvement in the autobahn, allowing > you > > > to keep higher sustained speeds, but without killing the acceleration > in > > > the lower gears. > > > > > > Cristiano Rossi > > > thpnma 02869 > > > > > > ---------- > > > > Fra: bo grims <bo.grims@swipnet.se> > > > > Til: detomaso@wgate.com > > > > Emne: Re: ZF taller 5th > > > > Dato: 4. september 1997 20:35 > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I have never heard of any higher geared 5th, but there is 3 different > > > > final ratios to the transaxle, i.e. Low, Normal and the so called > > > > Le Mans ratio. There is a GT5-84 in Sweden which changed owner > > > > recently, which has been said to have the Le Mans gearbox ratio. > With > > > > power enough the car should do an additional 35 km (22mph) roughly. > > > > But of course, the final gear ratio hits all gears, i.e. high 1st, > > > > 2nd, and so on. Not so fun all the time. > > > > Bo > > > > > > > > > > Tomas Gunnarsson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the ratio of the taller than stock 5th gears > > > available? Are > > > > > > other gears than 5th also available with non-stock ratios? Are > the > > > standard > > > > > > gears movable, I mean do they fit in other than their normal > > > locations (2-5th > > > > > > gear, 1st is different I think)? > > > > > > If anyone has it installed, what's it like? Big difference in any > > > way? Cost? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomas > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Postal address: Street address: > > > > > > FM Computer Components FM Computer Components > > > > > > Box 6504 Fyrislundsgatan 81 > > > > > > S-751 38 UPPSALA S-754 50 UPPSALA > > > > > > SWEDEN SWEDEN > > > > > > > > > > > > tel +46 (0)18 561800 > > > > > > fax +46 (0)18 561818 ==============================================================================