DeTomaso Mailing List: September 97, Message #33

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From: GPS@aol.com Subject: Re: Clarification: Euro Panteras Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:01:30 -0400 (EDT)
In a message dated 9/2/97 12:04:20 AM, MikeLDrew@aol.com wrote: <>Jack, Jack, Jack, When speaking from up on the mount, you've got to RESEARCH before you issue such proclamations! :>) NOT all Euro Panteras were GTS models. In fact, most of them were NOT GTS cars. The Pantera was released in Europe early in 1971, just as "the Pantera.", long before it was introduced into the USA (the first U.S. car was #1286, the 286th Pantera off the line, including prototypes and crash-test dummies.) The GTS variant was introduced early in 1972 to add a little pizazz to the line. It was a higher-priced Pantera, fitted with a more powerful engine (350 vs 330 hp), riveted-on fender flares, a different 4th gear ratio, clock in the dashboard (most, although PERHAPS not all European GTS Panteras used the L-model interior as early as May, 1972, even though that interior wasn't available in the U.S. until 1973), and of course the GTS paint scheme. I think there was a change to the steering rack ratio as well (I'm currently doing my research in the same institution Jack uses, namely, the anal orifice, although I'm using both hands AND a flashlight.) However, even after the Pantera mass-production days ended, DeTomaso produced three or four versions of the car at the same time, marketed as: 1) the Pantera L (the 'standard' version, fitted with chrome front bumperettes in front (with the turn signal NOT attached, but rather fitted into a pod on the body as in U.S. L-models) and a chrome one-piece U.S. bumper in the rear), 2) Pantera GTS (as previously briefed), 3) Pantera Group 3 (stock-bodied, no flares, fitted with a roll cage, massive brakes, i.e. set up for production-class roadracing) 4) Group 4 (factory Group 4 race cars.) This is all before the GT5 was created, and later the GT/4 (street version of Group 4 race cars.) Check your factory sales brochure (I know you've got one lying around somewhere) for all the specs on these various models. >From my Euro buddies, and after taking a peek in the parking lot at the Factory Love-in last year (you WERE there too, weren't you Jack? :>) ) As a SWAG, I'd say that no more than 10-15% of European Panteras were GTS models. So there you go... Mike ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >From detomaso-owner@wgate.com Mon Sep 1 15:48:23 1997 Return-Path: <detomaso-owner@wgate.com> Received: from tvol-gw.tvol.com (tvol-gw.tvol.com [38.219.83.62]) by mrin69.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id PAA06366; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by tvol-gw.tvol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA07084 for detomaso-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:40:55 -0400 Received: from hj.tvol.com (hj.tvol.com [38.219.83.2]) by tvol-gw.tvol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA07079 for <detomaso@tvol-gw.tvol.com>; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:40:49 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by hj.tvol.com (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA12460 for <DeTomaso@wgate.com>; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:44:10 -0400 (EDT) From: MikeLDrew@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA20260 for DeTomaso@wgate.com; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970901154346_873233414@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: DeTomaso@wgate.com Subject: Clarification: Euro Panteras Sender: owner-detomaso@wgate.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: MikeLDrew@aol.com >> Per your comments on European Panteras, later there were also several options within the GTS line, including a Group 4 trim package (riveted bubble flairs, 14" rear wheels etc,) without the hot engine and stripped down and lightened Body. Greg Sullivan ==============================================================================

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