DeTomaso Mailing List: September 97, Message #33
From: GPS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Clarification: Euro Panteras
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:01:30 -0400 (EDT)
In a message dated 9/2/97 12:04:20 AM, MikeLDrew@aol.com wrote:
<>Jack, Jack, Jack,
When speaking from up on the mount, you've got to RESEARCH before you issue
such proclamations! :>)
NOT all Euro Panteras were GTS models. In fact, most of them were NOT GTS
cars. The Pantera was released in Europe early in 1971, just as "the
Pantera.", long before it was introduced into the USA (the first U.S. car was
#1286, the 286th Pantera off the line, including prototypes and crash-test
dummies.)
The GTS variant was introduced early in 1972 to add a little pizazz to the
line. It was a higher-priced Pantera, fitted with a more powerful engine
(350 vs 330 hp), riveted-on fender flares, a different 4th gear ratio, clock
in the dashboard (most, although PERHAPS not all European GTS Panteras used
the L-model interior as early as May, 1972, even though that interior wasn't
available in the U.S. until 1973), and of course the GTS paint scheme. I
think there was a change to the steering rack ratio as well (I'm currently
doing my research in the same institution Jack uses, namely, the anal
orifice, although I'm using both hands AND a flashlight.)
However, even after the Pantera mass-production days ended, DeTomaso produced
three or four versions of the car at the same time, marketed as:
1) the Pantera L (the 'standard' version, fitted with chrome front
bumperettes in front (with the turn signal NOT attached, but rather fitted
into a pod on the body as in U.S. L-models) and a chrome one-piece U.S.
bumper in the rear),
2) Pantera GTS (as previously briefed),
3) Pantera Group 3 (stock-bodied, no flares, fitted with a roll cage, massive
brakes, i.e. set up for production-class roadracing)
4) Group 4 (factory Group 4 race cars.)
This is all before the GT5 was created, and later the GT/4 (street version of
Group 4 race cars.)
Check your factory sales brochure (I know you've got one lying around
somewhere) for all the specs on these various models.
>From my Euro buddies, and after taking a peek in the parking lot at the
Factory Love-in last year (you WERE there too, weren't you Jack? :>) ) As a
SWAG, I'd say that no more than 10-15% of European Panteras were GTS models.
So there you go...
Mike
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Subject: Clarification: Euro Panteras
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>>
Per your comments on European Panteras, later there were also several options
within the GTS line, including a Group 4 trim package (riveted bubble flairs,
14" rear wheels etc,) without the hot engine and stripped down and lightened
Body.
Greg Sullivan
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