DeTomaso Mailing List: November 97, Message #210
     



From: 	ED_KORNEGAY@HP-Sonoma-om1.om.hp.com

Subject: Re: Comparison:(the way I see it)

Date: 	Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:12:41 +0000



     

I'm sorry tomcat,  I misunderstood.  I thought your hamburger reference was 

referring to cars and not drivers.  I owe you an apology!!



We do agree!!!!! 



Ed



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Subject: Re: Comparison:(the way I see it)

Author:  Non-HP-tomcat (tomcat@scescape.net) at HP-Sonoma,shargw1

Date:    11/6/97 10:19 AM





>Tomcat wrote:

>>In the fighter community we used to say: 

>>"Hamburger in any wrapper is still hamburger!" 

>

>That's fine as long as you admit that a great 

>pilot flying a "Hamburger wrapper" is more of a 

>threat than a rookie in a Pantera.

     

Not only do I admit it, that's my point!

     

>If 

>Hamburger wrappers weren't threats, they would 

>have never started Top Gun.  We have the best 

>($$) fighters in the world, in your way of 

>thinking, why bother to train the pilots, good 

>hardware is all you need.

     

I don't know where that comes from?

But once again, I agree with you.  In Vietnam, Korean War vintage aircraft 

(and Surface to Air missles) were hurting our century series aircraft 

(F-100, 101, 105)and the "new" F-4 Phantom!

     

>good hardware is all you need.

     

Just the opposite!  The best aircraft in the world (and I do believe we 

(US) have them and I flew them) in the hands of a 

novice/rookie/hamburger/wannabe is no match for a skilled aggressor, no 

matter what his aircraft!

     

You must not 

>practice much because you have the good 

>hardware.  They're flying "hamburger wrappers". 

>The enemy must be looking forward to you.  To 

>bad it costs so many tax payer $ when one of 

>those things gets splashed by a hamburger 

>wrapper.

>

>Ed

     

Wow Ed, I think I'll orbit at 30K and wait for the fur ball to die down!

     

I'm on your side but YOYO (You're On Your Own)!

     

By the way, what's your background? (Know your threat, they know you!)