DeTomaso Mailing List: December 97, Message #60
     



From: 	"Frank Zambini" <f_zambini@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: ZZZZZ#2

Date: 	Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:26:40 +0000





>Frank,



>	I dont know where you get your information from, but they are

>untruths.

   ***are you trying to piss me off or what? The information is based on 

reading "your" earlier post to the site! Maybe I'm missing something 

here but ever since your post was aired there is a definate censored 

deminished air to the communications on the site. If that's what you 

intended or want then it's okay by me but don't be pissed off when 

people want to go elsewhere. It's your site and your the administrator. 

But don't act hurt if people go elsewhere or suggest an alternative to 

censored communications. You can't have it both ways.     



There is no censorship on the DeTomaso Forum other than

>"self-censorship" which you alone enforce when you decide to hit

>the "send" or "delete" keys.

***so what was the need to write your earlier post? You got one guy who 

wrote a "hear-hear". And even if you had 10 posts of encouragement we 

have how many people on the site?

>

>	The DeTomaso forum is not a moderated list.  No censorship, ever.

***again not true. read your own and this post again. Look at the number 

of "unsubscribes" to the list.    

>

>	If you have been told otherwise, it was by people who misunderstand

>technology and the spirit of the Forum.  That is unfortunate, and the

>spreading of rumours is irresponsible.

***What rumors? What you wrote is irresponsible. How much do you weight 

again?

>

>	I think it is great that Curt has started his own list.  The internet

>is a free medium to do whatever one wants.  However I do ask certain

>principles of contributors to this forum for many reasons.  One reason 

is

>that all posts are archived at a web site and are available to anyone

>who want to read them.  Anyone.  Would you want your spouse to read

>the forum's posts? 

***Actually she could care less. she's not into De Tomaso cars. I am 

though and I want and encourage an environment at work and at home where 

folks don't have to walk on egg shells. Where folks can disagree and 

argue and debate and contribute.  



How about your next boss?  

***My next boss could be Mad Dog! I'm serious. . .We're in the same 

business and I've never known Mad Dog to define what folks could say or 

not say. In the past Mad Dog worked for me! What do you think Mad Dog 

would have done if I had defined (like you did) what he can say, do, 

act? He would have shut down just like many people have done in the last 

couple weeks. Again you can't have it both ways shane.

 



Just one of the reasons to

>keep posts clean, non-libellous 

***I totally agree. We don't need insulting one's PERSONAL beliefs. I 

would hope though that we can disagree. That we can debate positions and 

police ourselves. That's why I always enjoyed Mad Dog's perspective 

(twisted as it may be) on issues. We "need" to hear the dissenting 

opinion. And I don't like the idea that we're gonna tell Mad Dog, Curt, 

Mike, Bo bo or anyone else what they can say or can't say or SHOULD say. 

don't want to see what anyone writes. Hit the DELETE key. 

We're adults and we all have something in common. Our love of De Tomaso 

vehicles. 



>Always ask yourself this

>question before submitting a post; "Would I stand in front of a person 

>say this to them in front of 200 other people?"

***I already am aren't I? If I have to add litle "smiley's" to my post 

or watch what I say because it's NOT a De Tomaso related subject then I 

will unsubscribe. But don't tell me I misunderstand the spirit of the 

forum. 

>

>This Forum was formed to support DeTomaso enthusiasts everywhere,

>and their appreciation of one of the finest automobiles ever built.  

This 

>is the Forum's only goal.

***Then welcome Curt back aboard. Encourage Jack, Mad Dog, Bo Bo, Andy, 

david, Dan, Dave A., Dave W., Gary and others to contribute again. Let's 

not STOP talking to one another. Let's not stop contributing and let's 

move on. Otherwise this site is gonna be pretty boring. How many posts 

to you want to read about that only address pure tech issues. Let's just 

stop ALL the social functions of the group then.

Actually I am pissed off now. And as Curt suggested you don't want to 

piss big guys like me off when your just a little skinny guy like 

you...Okay, I'm kidding. there's my :-) smiley! But I am serious about 

everything else I've written here today.   

  

Frank Z  



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