DeTomaso Mailing List: March 98, Message #254
     



From: 	BobFluty <BobFluty@aol.com>

Subject: Re: Intakes/Fuel Injection Q's

Date: 	Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:20:03 +0000



> Asa Jay wrote: .... A friend at our meeting last night got me all fired up

to build

>                       a new Cleveland......we breached the subject of fuel

injection on

>                       the Cleveland.



To Asa Jay I say:  DO NOT BUILD A NEW CLEVELAND MOTOR -

                           DO NOT BUILD A CUSTOM FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM -

                           DO NOT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE DAVE DODDEK, mR.

                               dOGG or even MIKE DREW - THESE ARE VERY SICK   

                               INDIVIDUALS -

                           GET PROFESSIONAL PSYCHIATRIC HELP SOON!

                           GO OUT AND BUY A VOLVO INSTEAD (MAKE IT AN

                               '84 WAGON)!



O.K., back to reality.  It sounds like you're trying to use as much production

5.0 EFI equipment as possible - I'm currently wrapping up my new motor, which

will use Ford Motorsport F.I. components.  My motor builder (Dave Smith) has

been bugging me to think real seriously about upgrading to injection from the

first time I talked with him about building a motor.  I finally made the

decision to go with injectors late in the build cycle (like a week before our

planned dyno day!).  We're using 100% Ford Motorsport injector components,

coupled with a Roush single plane intake manifold.  The throttle body,

injectors and mass air unit are sized to feed 525-550 horsepower, while

providing improved low/mid range torque and better driveability throughout the

RPM range (That's the plan, anyway).  The intake manifold comes back this

week, after a trip to Texas for drilling/tapping for the injectors, plus

custom fuel rail manufacture.  The throttle body bolts to the manifold via a

90 degree adapter (fabbed out of aluminum tubing).  Since we won't have an air

cleaner sitting on top of a carburetor, the overall height won't change much.



Since this is a integrated closed loop system (oxygen sensors in the exhaust

system), debugging hopefully will be held to a minimum.  The routing of the

fresh air system, mass air sensor and air cleaner are still in work.  The

computer and ignition module will be mounted behind the passenger seat - they

don't like the heat.  Dyno day is now planned for later this month, although

we might go ahead and light the motor off with a carburetor installed and then

go through the actual injector debugging later.  My injector  knowledge is

pretty limited, so I'm making this a learning experience as we go along.  The

Pantera owners that I've talked with that have injection systems on their cars

are very positive about the gains experienced with the injectors.  



Good luck with your motor and injection system - keep us all posted on your

progress.



Bob