DeTomaso Mailing List: April 98, Message #244

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From: Dennis Antenucci <itbewild@gte.net>
Subject:Re: Can I fuel inject?
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:33:59 +0000


Thanks Mikey!  [:-)
Mike is bringing his Pantera all the way from Little Rock Arkansas (yes, he
knows Bill Clinton!) for both the convention and SS!!! Now that's hard core you
SoCal pussies. . .Guys in Texas love it when I say that!  <grin>
You can catch a picture of his car on our Team Pantera Racing website (go to
"Who is Team pantera & Other Participants).
MD
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3632

Mike Trusty wrote:

> Mad Dog wrote:
>
> Mike Trusty build his own system. It's beautiful and it works. Care to share
> with
> us Mike?
> MD
>
> Well Dennis, you really know how to put a lurker on the spot.
>
> I am a firm believer in the benefits of fuel injection if applied as a
> complete engine management system.  In my opinion the fuel and ignition must
> be controlled by the same source and sensors.  I realize that there are as
> many opinions on this as there are Clinton affairs, so take my description
> for what it is worth.  Also understand that this system was built several
> years ago and there are many pieces on the market today that would make it
> much easier to apply to the Pantera.
>
> 1. My goal was to have a system that would match or better the performance
> of the best induction system that was currently available for the Pantera.
> All of this with the driveability of a small carburetor system.
> 2. I can already see that this description can run on forever.  So I am
> going to shift gears in midstream.  I am going to give a brief description
> of the system.  If anyone has a particular question, please direct it to me.
>
> a. Utilized a Weber manifold with 50 mm throttle bodies.
> b. What appears to be a manifold plumbed for nitrous is actually two
> different vacuum lines to each port.  One is for the combined reference for
> the manifold pressure sensor.  The other is for the idle air control motor.
> c. Knock sensor mounted on head (modifies three dimensional spark table).
> d. Crank mounted timing pickup.
> e. Closed loop(O2 sensor controlled) only during cruse.  Open loop(speed
> density) during load.
> f. Distributorless ignition with one coil per cylinder.  Coils are mounted
> next to each cylinder.  I have found that the dual plug coils(keep in mind
> that with these type coils that one spark plug is negative ground and the
> other is positive ground.  You old time hot rodders will remember what
> hooking a coil up backward means) like most systems use can not handle a
> high output application without problems. (another discussion).
> g. All coils are enhanced with MSD multispark inputs.
> h. Fully addressable and programmable from computer.  Box is a modified
> Electromotive ECU.
> i. Complete data logging capable.  Limited only by hard disk space.
> j. Motor is pretty strung out.
> k. Very driveable with good throttle response.
> l. The system is not unlike systems that several people have and is
> available from some of the vendors.
>
> Again, I could talk forever on each component, but.
>
> I look forward to meeting many on this list at my first visit to the Vegas
> meeting.  It will be interesting to have a face to relate to these different
> sounding keystrokes.





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