DeTomaso Mailing List: March 99, Message #74

Hey !

i liked my V12 Jaguar (1977) Green
it was and 'still' is cool and fun to drive !

and maintinense well.... not more then "any" old car (not counting the
engine :)

/Gunnar


-----Original Message-----
From: JDeRyke@aol.com <JDeRyke@aol.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <detomaso@realbig.com>
Date: den 3 mars 1999 21:51
Subject: Re: Pantera purchase (long)


>In a message dated 3/3/99 12:45:31 PM, hmlnd@earthlink.net writes:
>snip.....
><< First; spending about 12K for a Pantera in FAIR cond. Runs and drives OK
>but needs work throughout, a little rust ok- not in structural areas.
(might
>be fun to restore)
>Second; approx. 15-19K for one in GOOD cond. presentable inside and out but
>with signs of wear. Body should be straight and solid, little or no
apparent
>rust,  paint  may have some fading or checking.  Runs and drives well. May
>need some minor mechanical or cosmetic work, but usable and enjoyable as
is.
>Lastly; up to 22K for Very Good cond. very presentable, minimal wear or
well
>restored. Runs and drives smooth and tight. Needs no mechanical or cosmetic
>work. Beautiful to look at but not absolutely perfect.
>I'm basing these values by VMR Standard Auto Guide (vmrintl.com). >>
>
>I can't comment on selling prices, but ASKING prices are $3-$5K higher in
all
>your categories. Rust is the key, as are a good transaxle & then a strong
>engine.
> #1- the only $12K Pantera I've heard about recently was so rust-damaged,
it
>took a  knowlegable Pantera guy a week to find out he'd bought 3/4 of a
>complete car.... A $14K car sold recently, after having been severely
t-boned
>in the drivers door. I estimate $10-$12K damage....
>#2- good paint jobs nowadays are $3500, as are transaxle overhauls. A worn
>left rear stub axle will be close to $500; a $19K Pantera quickly becomes a
>$26K Pantera, after many months in someone's shop @ $65/hr.
>#3- being able to turn-key & drive cross-country, trouble-free with your
head
>held high in your pretty new Pantera, will cost close to $30,000 asking.
>
>You can check with many guys on this list; unless you really fall into a
deal,
>it will be far more pleasurable and cheaper to find a car that fits your
>criteria, and pay 15% more, than to be sucked into a long-term
'restoration'.
>Remember, only 6000 were ever built- parts aren't at every street-corner,
nor
>are they particularly cheap. <http://www.panteraparts.com> has an entire
parts
>list on-line, with prices. This is an excellent reference even if you buy
>parts elsewhere.  Glad to have you aboard; just don't build up expectations
>based on someone's price-guesses (including mine). There are many fine cars
>out there, but cheap is trouble like you may never have seen before, unless
>you are an ex-Jaguar owner...... Good luck- J DeRyke
>
>