DeTomaso Mailing List: July 99, Message #241

Steve wrote:

>What are the respective curb weights of a pre-L and an L Pantera?

>>>Operating from memory here, so allow for that if I'm wrong, but I believe 
the Pre-L was about 3150, and the L was about 3300 or so.

USA cars had steel beams (pretty flimsy though) in the doors while Euro cars 
did not.  Also, the L-models gained weight not only with the bumpers, but 
also the associated mounting rams and extra chassis reinforcements for same.

>Also, how much torque is a stock ZF rated to withstand? Otherwise, anyone
have big dyno numbers? Trying to determine how far one can go in
building up their Cleveland before the ZF becomes suspect.

>>>To the best of my knowledge, NOBODY has ever blown up a ZF with a 
Cleveland!  You'll be scattering connecting rods hither and yon LONG before 
you approach the ZF's limits.

>While I'm at it, does anyone have the factory HP and TQ ratings for
the various factory engine offerings (just two? pre-L and L?). 

>>>310 for the high-compression '71 Pre-L.  That went down to 264 for the 
L-model (although didn't they also change from SAE net to SAE gross at the 
same time, so you're comparing apples and oranges?  Or no?) and the Euro GTS 
was 330.  Don't remember torque figures.

Mike