DeTomaso Mailing List: January 00, Message #13

Hello Cal.
The reason I asked about the bellhousing was to help decide which way I
should go with an engine. The car I am getting has a good engine now, so I'm
not in a rush. I am leaning toward building a stroker Motor about 430 C.I.

I spoke with Steve Wilkinson about my supercharger idea. He convinced me
that it didn't meet my criteria of possible daily driver with no fuss. I
have decided to win this game with displacement.
I also had a good conversation with Mark Oneil at Coast Hi Performance. They
make stroker kits for the 351C and M motors.The C motor kit is more
expensive than the M. The difference is just less than the cost of the
bellhousing. With the taller deck height of the M, there is room to get
about 30 more inches. On the + side for the C engine, Mark told me that
Competition cams is about to introduce a new Hydraulic roller cam with good
specs for a stroked Cleveland. I'm sure you know this stuff. I'm learning.
I think it boils down to the question of where I want to do the fabricating.
I am planning on making an individual runner intake manifold for fuel
injection. I am still undecided on how to control the air into the motor. My
choices are Individual throttle bodies from TWM Induction, 1 large throttle
body on each side half of the intake  plenum  or a slide plate. I have a
friend that really wants to make the slide, but it is looking like a bunch
of work for a non competition vehicle.

On the other end of the engine is the exhaust. I have always loved the look
of the 180 degree headers that wrap up the back of the Pantera motor. I have
collected almost enough stainless bends to do a set.

I am new to Panteras. I hope I don't offend anyone with 20 obvious
questions. If anybody has suggestions on engine choices, or input on fuel
injection, I would appreciate every word.

I have been reading your postings about modifying your bellhouse and had
wondered why you hadn't purchased the bellhouse for your swap.

Perhaps one of the old times should go over some details with D-Mann. Doesn'
t he know Ford makes a better motor?    :)

Regards to all,
Nolan Scheid

----- Original Message -----
From: <catman351@themost.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <detomaso@realbig.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: 351M bellhousing cost?


> Hi Nolan:
> Don't know why you want to install a 351M but your better off sticking
> with the C-block or most of the other small block stuff. Expect to pay
> $800 for a used big block bellhousing to ZF. I'm having mine fabricated,
> but because the nature of the engine I'm installing (400M) and Hi-po-ing
> that, that will be worth it. I will have to take my ZF, old bell housing
> and engine plate for the 351C, the new 351M/400/429/460 engine plate and
> C-6 xmission shell, and have my fabricator cut the bellhousing off from
> the C-6, weld, and drill out a plate to fit the ZF. That the other way
> you can do that. Or, do what Ted Mitchell did and redo a flathead to ZF
> adaptor and drill out accordingly. Or, you can contact www.wilcap.com,
> grab their Chevy to ZF and have an adaptor plate made up to do that
> (BTW, the cost for a Chevy to ZF bellhousing to ZF is about $300-400.
> You can use this as your D-Mann alternative but you'd have the rest of
> the Power by Ford group spitting fire at ya....;^). In any event, good
> luck! Let me know how it goes. I expect to throw the parts to my fab man
> and let him do the work. Cal #2428r.
>
> Nolan Scheid wrote:
>
> > Hello All
> > Happy new year.
> > Does anyone want to sell a used bellhousing for a 351M engine swap?
> > Who has them new?
> > How much do they cost?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Nolan #2772 should have the car on Monday!!!!!
>
>