DeTomaso Mailing List: April 2000, Message #177

 Sorry to hear about your trouble's.

 This is a little late, but maybe someone else can use it. Jet-Hot has a 10
 day try before you coat them policy. You buy the headers, they ship them to
 you and you test fit them. If they don't fit you send them back for another
 set or a refund. If they do fit you ship them back in the provided shipping
 box and they go ahead and coat them.
 If they didn't tell you about this policy maybe you can ask them Why Not?

 Jim Mills
 www.geocities.com/jmillstwo
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay@asajay.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <detomaso@realbig.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 1:51 PM
> Subject: Hooker says....
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> > They are right, I am wrong.
> >
> > Okay, so here is the story, where do I go from here?
> >
> > Racerman was kind enough to take a small trip to the Hooker factory for
me
> > this morning to try and get them to contact me.  Finally, at about just
a
> > few minutes ago, I was contacted by a person at Hooker.
> >
> > Hooker only yesterday came under the Holley aquisition, and thus all
thier
> > customer phone lines are now forwarded to Holley, no wonder I can't get
> > through.  The person runs the exact same header on his car with the same
> > engine and same transmission.  He's had absolutely no problem since day
> > one.  He also says he uses a good sealer on the gaskets (which in my
> > opinoin is probably the only thing preventing the blowouts).  So as far
as
> > he's concerned, these will fit and not leak.  End of story, have a nice
> day.
> >
> > He did, to his credit, suggest I actually bolt the headers on with thier
> > gaskets (not mine), torque to spec, then remove them and inspect the
> > gaskets for indications of proper or improper seal.  Well, as far as I'm
> > concerned, if I have a 1/16 inch gap and an 1/8 inch thick gasket, I'll
> get
> > a good impression, even if the gasket is "pinched" between the wall of
the
> > port and the bead on the header.  I don't really think this proves much
> > beyond gross mis-alignment.  So I guess I'll have to bolt them on...
with
> > thier gaskets and see what the pressing puts onto the gaskets.  I'll
also
> > take lots of photos.
> >
> > This person also suggested that the other headers I have were NOT made
by
> > Hooker.  He assumes this because I told him my old headers were
> constructed
> > with individual flanges for each tube, not one flange connecting all
> tubes.
> >  Okay, so if he's correct in that evaluation, then who made this
previous
> > set of headers?  And who made the other identical set I have sitting in
> the
> > field?  I can't think of any other header manufacturer from 10 years ago
> > that made headers to fit the Cleveland 4V.  I of course, could be wrong,
> > but I need some sort of proof to substantiate this.
> >
> > So what is my course of action?  I'm still kinda peaved about this.
Even
> > if I was intending to use the MPG port plates on the exhuast, I still
> don't
> > like the headers they sent.  I will have to bolt the tranny to the
engine
> > (which is scheduled anyway), then bolt the headers the the head and then
> > look at the gaskets, that is assuming I really DO have clearance to the
> > transmission.
> >
> > So what should I do at this point?  These are the facts:
> >
> > The Hooker literature on the Holley site, in the 'Port Shape" column,
> > indicates the header has a port shape that is "Same As Port".  This is
NOT
> > true.  They are falling back on an idea that the customer should
> experience
> > a sufficient "seal" but not necessarily have the same port shape.  This
is
> > BS in my opinion.  If it says same as port, then by God it should be.
> >
> > The ports obviously do not match.  I'll take photos later.  Not matching
> to
> > a point that I believe (not proven at this point) that I will experience
> an
> > exhuast leak with these headers.  (that is, if I don't use sufficient
> > sealing goo around everything to prevent it).
> >
> > I've yet to contact Jet-Hot again on the issue, I'll be doing that again
> > shortly.
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Asa Jay
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