DeTomaso Mailing List: April 2000, Message #372

Paul,
  I have also been going down a parallel road with Larry Stock, so I sympathize
with what you are going thru.
  However, Larry and his contractor (Brullen of Canada- a reputable manufacturer
of quality exhaust
( www.brullenexhaust.com  see the Pantera photo there), not some backyard
outfit) are still endeavoring to come up with a set that fits by the Vegas
meeting later this month. I am not speaking for Larry, just passing along some
info that may help you make a decision.
  I have faith that he will deliver as promised : a Stainless set which has good
workmanship, fit, chrome tips which blend in with the artwork of the car, and a
reasonable price  (they were on special sale for Christmas for about $550 or
so).
  I have just had a long discussion with Larry regarding mine and your
situation, and I believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, so don't
sell the car just yet.
  Keep the faith, Al.

Paul & Cathy Rimov wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul & Cathy Rimov <whtvnm@mind.net>
> To: Detomaso List <Detomaso@realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:30 PM
> Subject: London Stainless "Quick Silver" Sucks, Stainless steel muffler
> update.
>
> > Well as many of you know I have been working on having a set of Stainless
> > steel mufflers made that are quieter than the stock or GTS system by
> London
> > Stainless Steel "Quick Silver of London". The first set was well made but
> > wasn't even going to fit and they didn't follow the design parameters very
> > closely at all. After several calls and E-mails they agree to rebuild
> them.
> > So I sent them back along with my pipes. Well several weeks passed so I
> > E-mailed them to check up progress and they said they were working on them
> > and they would be finished up by the end of the week and that was March
> 1st.
> > A couple of weeks passed so I decided to call and I talked to Paul Goddard
> > and he said he had gotten behind and was just finishing up on them and
> would
> > send them off in a couple of days and added the remark that they were
> > loosing their shirt on this order. I thought to my self well if you had
> > followed the agreed upon designs and plans you would have only had to
> build
> > them once and may have had other orders but kept my mouth shut. Fast
> > forward, I called today to find out  what the delay was in getting them.So
> I
> > gave them a quick call,  Get this Paul Goddard of London Stainless "Quick
> > Silver" decided against making or refabrication the mufflers because it
> was
> > going to cost more than his one size fits all muffler cans, even after
> > almost a month of E-mailing Diagrams and pictures of the exhaust
> > specifications throughout December to him, he agreed would be no problem
> to
> > fabricate.But, out of simple respect, failed to even bother contact me
> about
> > not remaking them.  So now not only am I out the Cash and  the  stainless
> > steel mufflers but now he has my pipes too. I highly recommend staying
> away
> > from London Stainless Steel "Quick Silver" webmaster@racercar.co.uk. JERK!
> >
> > Luckily I paid for it on my VISA so I was able to file a claim against the
> > company and have a conditional credit for the majority of cost credited to
> > my account and I had all the parts insured.  It kinda continues to get
> > worse. I called Mario today to see if I could buy Derks Pre-L GTS SS
> > mufflers that didn't fit  Rick's old car. Marino was going to make a set
> of
> > L-ones for him and I figured he would now have an extra un paired set. He
> > said no way Jose. To his credit he was very polite and sympathetic and my
> > request gave fuel to the fire for him to produce more than a single one
> type
> > fits all exhaust. There is not a new stock Ansa set available from any
> > vendor on the earth and don't even suggest Halls the set he completely
> > misrepresented as new was something that looked like it came off a FIAT
> > complete with rust and the chrome tips tarnished scratched and flaking
> off.
> > Still have a claim against that guy with my Ford City Visa. The only other
> > option left is to fit a set of GTS exhaust to my Headman Headers at only
> > $900 a side which is just about where I started. If I am starting to sound
> > bitter, I apologies, but well, I am, I have been monking with finding a
> new
> > quieter exhaust since the Vegas 99 convention last year and have invest
> > considerable time and money.  I guess I am the only person to ever own a
> > Pantera that wants to be able to have a conversation while driving the
> car,
> > Im not talking Honda or BMW quiet just old factory muscle car quiet. At
> this
> > time I am at the point of making the necessary repairs to the engine an
> > putting our P-car up for sale.
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for letting me use this form to vent.
> >
> > Paul, Very frustrated and alone feeling, Rimov
> >