DeTomaso Mailing List: December 2000, Message #112

     I drilled a 10 mm or so hole from below in a location approximately 
     above the fuse box on my '71. Removed the right side wiper grille, 
     dropped a hole punch down into the channel, moved the punch over to my 
     drilled hole. Punched out the hole from below and installed a 90deg 
     bend that protrudes a few cms up into the channel. This is in an area 
     that slopes up from the bottom of the channel so I didn't even have to 
     seal the passage. Neither do I need a "rain hat" as it's located 
     underneath the bodywork. I then lead the air through a plastic hose to 
     the closest fan intake.
     
     The cabin leaks air enough to make this intake useful without custom 
     exits unless you've specifically sealed off the compartment. Normally 
     the door fit is so poor that it's enough to evacuate the air coming 
     in.
     
     This will aid indoor climate but in no way substitute a working AC 
     system. I saw maybe a 5C drop in temp compared to the stock setup 
     (with removed AC), but really needed a 10-15C drop. I have since 
     installed the AC again... :-)
     
     Tomas


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Subject: RE: Door Vents
Author:  David and Marilyn Bell <mdbell@flash.net> at Internet-europe
Date:    2000-12-01 20:56


Well actually I had the same plan -  to upgrade (somehow) to a fresh air intake 
and then maybe install the other door exit vent.  The fresh air problem was 
discussed several months ago on the forum but I don't remember hearing of 
anyone who modified a non-fresh air car to fresh air without the dash being 
completely disassembled with serious cutting and welding involved.
     
I think I might be able to cut a hole from inside the car with a hole saw and 
insert a tube which would penetrate the outside air duct tray by 3/4 inch or 
so.  I could probably put some kind of hat on it (chimney cover style) that 
would keep water from falling straight down the hole.  How to attach the tube 
without welding is the problem.  J-B Weld maybe but epoxy may not hold up long 
term.  I'd also considered some sort of flat flange around the tube that could 
be attached with screws the bottom of the outside tray and sealed with epoxy. 
 Are any of the factory fresh air duct parts available or is it a 'figure it 
 out and make stuff' kind of deal?
     
I'd appreciate any insight you might have. I could use some air too.
     
Dave
     
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From:   Tony DiGiovanna[SMTP:t.digiovanna@mindspring.com] 
Sent:   Friday, December 01, 2000 8:14 PM
To:     David and Marilyn Bell
Subject:        Re: Just bought a Pantera - one more question
     
My car does not have the fresh air inlet either.  It's in the plan for this 
winter's upgrades.  If you're giving the hall kit remnants away, I'd be 
happy to have 'em.
     
----- Original Message -----
From: David and Marilyn Bell <mdbell@flash.net>
To: 'Tony DiGiovanna' <t.digiovanna@mindspring.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: Just bought a Pantera - one more question
     
     
> Kirby,
>
> I can personally testify that the Hall door ventilation kit does nothing 
on
> cars without the fresh-air vent in the dash (mine doesn't).  If yours has 
fresh
> air though I think the door vents would help. Even if fresh air is coming 
in
> there's no other way for the air to get out unless you crack a window - 
which
> is tough to do in the rain.
>
> I still have 1/2 of the door vent kit that's uninstalled (passenger side) 
> because the vent that is installed didn't help. You're welcome to the 
unused
> half if you want to try it first.
>
> Dave
>
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> From: Tony DiGiovanna[SMTP:t.digiovanna@mindspring.com] 
> Reply To: Tony DiGiovanna
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 3:43 PM 
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Just bought a Pantera - one more question 
>
> Kirby wrote:
> ..the Pantera has a pretty lousy ventilation system...Has anyone tried 
> Hall's new door ventilation kits? If so, do they work or not?...
>
> If or when someone answers that question, please specify if your car has 
an
> air inlet under the dash.  As you know, some cars do and some don't.  I 
> suspect the hall kit will do little without an inlet source.
>
> Tony (need....air...gasp) D
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