DeTomaso Mailing List: April 2001, Message #318

FWIW, Marino tells me his new 12.5 x 18" rear wheels will "not" protrude
from the wheel wells of a stock Pantera.

MD 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John Taphorn [SMTP:jtaphorn@kingwoodcable.com]
> Sent:	Friday, April 06, 2001 4:45 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: THE NEW 12.5"x18" CAMPY-STYLE WHEEL FOR STOCK BODIED
> CARS - M
> 
> This was the initial tire that I considered.  However, I saw no way to fit
> it "in" the wheel well.  Same holds true for a 12.5" rim.  I could
> certainly
> fit them if I was ok with the tire protruding outside the wheelwell.
> However, aside from my subjective observation of a compromised appearance,
> you may have to raise the ride height to prevent tire contact with the top
> of the fender well when the suspension is compressed.  And with a large
> enough tire, I do not know if you could raise the car high enough.
> 
> To be a universal fit for Pantera's, I would suspect Marino may be going
> with no more than 6.5" of backspace.  Pantera's currently running 335's on
> 6.5" BS (11" wheels) are already rubbing the framerail in spirited
> driving.
> My car has a frontspace measurement of ~ 5.25" for a total of 11.75" if
> you
> employ 6.5"BS  (5.25 + 6.5). Keep in mind,  the lip on each side of the
> wheel is .5", and wheel widths are measured from the mounting surfaces.
> Thus 11.75" equates to an 10.75" rim.  This is why an 11" rim appears
> about
> max on a non-flared car.  Now, a 12.5 in rim actually measures 13.5" at it
> outer lip, and thus, assuming 6.5" BS has a FS of 7" with the rim
> protruding
> 1.75" (13.5 - 11.75).  The tire being around 14" wide sticks out a bit
> more.
> 
> A local Pantera has 11" wheels with a FS of 6.1875 and the wheel/tire
> combo
> protrudes almost an inch from the top of the fender well.  However, if you
> examine the outline of the Pantera's fender well, you will notice that it
> tapers in significantly as you move to the rear of the car.  In essence
> the
> car gets narrower.  The upshot is that while this wheel protrudes from the
> top of the fender well, it is in line with the fenderwell behind the door
> above the rocker panel.   Looking down the front of the car toward the
> rear,
> the tire is barely visible.  However, observed from the rear forward, the
> tire sticks well outside the fenderwell.  Potential interference with the
> fender aside, some may find this look acceptable.  I doubt many would
> appreciate the look if extended outward any further and a larger wheel
> would
> force that issue.  While our cars are all a little different, that fit I
> must see to believe.  Caveat emptor
> 
> JT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Antenucci, Dennis" <antenuccid@samtrans.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <detomaso@realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:14 PM
> Subject: RE: THE NEW 12.5"x18" CAMPY-STYLE WHEEL FOR STOCK BODIED CARS - M
> 
> 
> > MARINO?????
> > Keep in mind Wayne these are the same type of centers he had on his
> other
> > 16/17" wheels...only difference is they are taller and wider!  But I
> hear
> > ya....I wanna see how these BIG 12.5" WIDE puppies fit inside a stock
> fender
> > well.
> > WELL DONE MARINO!!!! :-)
> >
> > MD
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Stevens [SMTP:lwstevens@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:44 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > Subject: THE NEW 12.5"x18" CAMPY-STYLE WHEEL FOR STOCK BODIED CARS -
> > > MARIN
> > >
> > > Any chance Marino will be showing these in Las Vegas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Antenucci, Dennis" <antenuccid@samtrans.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Here's some breaking vendor news. . .Marino Perna's
> > > > new 18" rear (Campy
> > > > style) wheels will soon be available.  The amazing
> > > > thing about these mega
> > > > wide 12.5" inch  wide wheels is that they FIT THE
> > > > "STOCK" REAR WHEEL WELLS
> > > > with no modifications and no spacers. . .and they
> > > > fit the new 345/35/18 (27"
> > > > tall) Michelin Pilot Sports tires and with the
> > > > shorter 16 or 17" rubber you
> > > > will have tire diameters close to original! :-)
> > > >
> > > > Stay tuned for prices and availability.
> > > >
> > > > MD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Dennis,
> > > > >  Our 18" will be 18" rear only.  To keep the look
> > > > > > "correct" at least to me,  I'm using the same
> > > > 17" centers that you
> > > > > already
> > > > > > have with "dropped" center rims (rims will have
> > > > an additonal 1/2" step).
> > > > > > Width so far is 12.5" on the rear (might have to
> > > > reduce to 12" depends
> > > > > on
> > > > > > clearance).  seems great with the new 345/35x18
> > > > pilot sports (27")
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marino
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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