[DeTomaso] NPC: Karmic payback and Darwin candidate

Sat Apr 15 14:44:35 EDT 2006

Hmmm... I'm not exactly sure what your point is - other than motorcycles can
be dangerous to your health.  It really doesn't matter who's fault it is.
Dead is dead.  The video links just support that point.  It's pretty
sobering to me that 10 out of 120 of the new riders that you meet in a given
year end up dying sometime that year.  I think you'd get much better odds in
Bagdad.  It sort of reminds me of that Who song from the 60's, 'My
Generation', with the line "I hope I die before I get old".

I'll also directly challenge your assertion that teenagers don't own
superbikes.  Visit the local high school of your choice and I wager you'll
see between 4 and 10 superbikes in the parking lot, depending on the size of
the school.  They don't all belong to the faculty.  I've also personally
observed more than one 'teenage' super bike rider circumvent the under-18
helmet law by sliding their full-face to the back their head and then ride
along peeking out the neck opening with the chin strap dangling.  Raging
hormones, bulletproof metal state and a 150 hp motorcycle aren't a good mix.

As for 'hawling ass through traffic', my reply would be the same one I make
to the gold-chain Ferrari and Lambo drivers.  Bring it to the track.  There
is always someone there who's 'hawling ass' much faster than you, no matter
how good you might think you are.

And the 'organ donor' tag for teenage super bike riders didn't come from me.
It came from an emergency room trama nurse who's seen more motorcycle
related ground beef than he cares to.

Dave Bell (who's owned a fair share of fast bikes and done a fair share of
wild wheelies)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian [mailto:gypsy at myspeedworks.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:11 AM
To: davidabell at worldnet.att.net; Art Stephens; Mark McWhinney;
detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Karmic payback and Darwin candidate

>>>>As a matter of fact, 'organ donor' is the common ER staff label for
teenagers riding hot super bikes (Ninjas, etc.), often sans helmet.  What
are their parents thinking?

I guess this is where I chime in. Now that I am known as an organ donor
maybe there should be an awareness program. Here are some links to what most
motorcycle wrecks are caused by.... #1
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/87050/look_look_and_look_again/  #2
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/77452/bike_car_crash/  #3
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/50007/moto_crash/  #4
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/69386/moto_hunter/  Now that is just the tip
of the ice burg so to speak. As for as teenagers on sportbikes. I have been
riding since the late 80s and sportbikes since the early 90s and never have
I met a teenager on a sportbike. If I had to guess, I meet about ten new
riders every month. In a year's time, about ten of those get killed. Out of
all the guys that I have met and later died on a motorcycle only one was
acting stupid. We all cut up from time to time, but when you deal with cars
and trucks that either can't control their vehicle, or simply don't see you,
then it tends to give you the since of life on the edge and this is how we
break out. Are we crazy, you are damn right we are. Mad Dawg once told me a
very interesting point,"Most of us that live life on the edge, have a double
(Y) chromasome, the same as a serial killer." As you will see in these
links, we are in control #5
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/62186/sick_bike_tricks/  #6
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/79930/street_fighter_day_2004/  #7
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/98676/the_best_tricks_with_motors/  #8
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/28160/a_few_loose_screws/  #9
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/30788/bikers_from_hell_2/ #10
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/68386/bikes_action/ Yes we crash, but most of
the time it is at slow speeds and in parking lots. Slow wheelies are much
harder than high speed wheelies. Now as for as being a parent. The best
advice #11 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/42135/girl_falls_off_bike/  is
teach your daughters to hang on. Most of the time when you see us hawling
ass through traffic, it is to keep us from being boxed in by larger more
dangerous vehicles. Once we get ahead, as long as we don't see blue lights
behind us, we will slow down to a steady speed. If we are in front of you,
cranking wheelies and having fun, then we are going at speeds between 70mph
and 90mph, but sometimes faster. If it bothers you, then you should slow
down, you shouldn't be going that fast anyway. Don't forget about the guys
who try and mock what we do on four wheels. #12
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/71507/thrown_from_vehicle/  Now, I didn't see
where we bikers had anything to do with a stupid kid lighting his self on
fire. Even though I know you are still going to hate us, keep this in mind.
This is our way of dealing with close calls every day. If you see us, back
off. If we crash, call 911 and do not take off our helmets.....
Brian (proud to be an organ donor at 32)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bell" <davidabell at worldnet.att.net>
To: "Art Stephens" <artstephens at charter.net>; "Mark McWhinney"
<msm at portata.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC: Karmic payback and Darwin candidate

> I'd say this particular kid is highly qualified for the brain surgeon
> program at the nearest medical school - as an organ donor though.
>
> As a matter of fact, 'organ donor' is the common ER staff label for
> teenagers riding hot super bikes (Ninjas, etc.), often sans helmet.  What
> are their parents thinking?
>
>
> Dave Bell
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Art Stephens
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:42 AM
> To: Mark McWhinney; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Karmic payback and Darwin candidat
>
>
>     Due to the blemish on the kid's criminal record, it is probably going
> to be tough for him to get in to that brain surgeon program at the nearest
> medical school :-)
> Art
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:44 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Karmic payback and Darwin candidate
>
>
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>> Ah, the rare doubleheader ...
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