[DeTomaso] Wheel Woes

Sat May 20 19:43:05 EDT 2006

Great news Sean!  

I hate to see folks go through so much trouble to get a set of wheels to
fit. 

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: sean mundy [mailto:seanmundy at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:46 AM
To: rgg at gregorycook.com; PanteraPlace at hotmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com;
pantdino at aol.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Wheel Woes

I contacted Kodiak and I've decided to let them fix the wheels. Kodiak has 
been very helpful and shown they want to make sure I get the wheels right.
After I take the front wheels apart and send the center sections to them 
they are going to machine out a 1/2 inch from the stud/nut pockets.  By 
doing this my front and rear wheels will be the same and I wont have any 
issues with short lugs.  Daryle said the wheel centers for the fronts were 
probably pulled from stock and although the backspacing is correct, the 
wheel hub on these particular wheels centers are thicker than they should 
be.  If he removes material from the rear of the hub or 'hub pad' as he 
called it, then my backspacing will change.   For the initial purchase order

I only gave Kodiak my backspace and wheel diameter and assumed that 
everyother spec would be fine since they have created so many sets of 
Pantera wheels.  I would suggest to anyone who buys wheels from Kodiak to 
measure everything carefully and specify every possible wheel measurement 
when ordering.  Then check everything 5 times to make sure you got it right 
:-)

>From: "Gray Gregory" <rgg at gregorycook.com>
>To: "'www.PanteraPlace .com'" <PanteraPlace at hotmail.com>,        "'sean 
>mundy'" <seanmundy at hotmail.com>, <detomaso at realbig.com>,        
><pantdino at aol.com>
>Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Wheel Woes
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:18:37 -0500
>
>It seams there's a lot of hand wringing going on here over something that's
>not that big a deal....
>
>It looks to me like you have two reasonable options. First, just put longer
>studs in. I know it's a PIA job, but it can be done in a few hours and
>you're good to go. Second, send them back to Kodiak and have them re-make
>the wheels with the proper offset (I think you said you had to run a
>spacer?).
>
>Option one takes a few hours and you will have your new wheels in time for
>summer driving. Option two will take much longer but will ultimately give
>you proper fitting wheels thus allowing you to get rid of the spacer.
>
>I would not recommend having your new wheels machined to work with your
>stock lugs.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Gray
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>Behalf Of www.PanteraPlace .com
>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:23 PM
>To: 'sean mundy'; detomaso at realbig.com; pantdino at aol.com
>Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Wheel Woes
>
>Sean,
>
>It sounds terribly pain full, but I would highly recommending sending them
>back to Kodiak and get you money back including all shipping cost.  If you
>start machining them you will mess up the DOT certification. I would look
>for a better solution that bolts right up without any hassle. Getting a new
>set of wheels to fit should not be a big hassle.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sean mundy [mailto:seanmundy at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:31 PM
>To: PanteraPlace at hotmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com; pantdino at aol.com
>Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Wheel Woes
>
>I have taken my rear hubs apart so I know its not easy to get the rear 
>studs
>out. I have gotten some wheel measurements from some other people with
>Kodiak wheels and mine are different.  I have over 3/4 of an inch in the
>wheel hub area where others only have around a 1/4 inch.  Sending them back
>to Kodiak to fix is an option but as it took 5months to finally get the
>wheels after a commitment of one month I dont have a lot of confidence in
>them.  I would like to have my wheels for the summer driving season so
>finding a local machine shop is my first choice.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:	"detomaso-bounces at realbig.com" <detomaso-bounces at realbig.com> on
>behalf of	"pantdino at aol.com" <pantdino at aol.com>
>Sent:	Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:52 AM
>To:	"PanteraPlace at hotmail.com" <PanteraPlace at hotmail.com>,
>"detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Subject:	Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel Woes
>
>I agree with Mike. Unless you got these wheels almost nothing or have
>some other strong reason to stick with them, I'd say it's not worth
>your while to mess with it.
>
>My understanding is that to remove the rear discs you basically have to
>disassemble the whole rear suspension and uprights, and I suspect it's
>true for stud replacement too.
>
>If you got these wheels with the understanding that they should fit a
>Pantera, then they should.
>
>Jim Oddie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: www.PanteraPlace .com <PanteraPlace at hotmail.com>
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Sent: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:28:54 -0400
>Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel Woes
>
>   Sean,
>
>I've never heard of Kodiak wheels but have you considered just boxing
>them
>up and sending them back to the vendor so they can send you the correct
>wheels? If the vendor is one of our regular Pantera vendors I'm sure
>they
>don't want owners unhappy with their products.  Messing around with
>changing
>out wheel studs is a major big hassle and it's not worth it.
>
>Over the years I've had two new sets of wheels installed on my Pantera
>and
>both times they bolted right on with a perfect fit. And that exactly
>what I
>expected and deserved!
>
>Mike
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