[DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?

Fri Sep 1 13:32:01 EDT 2006

Dave,

  I've been in a Huey or two in my day while it was being shot at...;-]>
  You forgot to mention the taped over bullet holes. 

  Mad Dawg Antenucci
Team Pantera Racing
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
www.teampanteraracing.com

Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com> wrote:
  TCM:

Listen up!
You are comparing apples to oranges! Or maybe a.22 caliber pistol to an
M-16.

Helicopter Tape is NOT Duct Tape or "Speed Tape - Racer's Tape" from the web
site you provided. I called them, they confirmed their "Speed Tape - Racer's
Tape" is Duct Tape in colors, also referred to as 200 M.P.H. tape. They do
not handle Helicopter tape because of the cost and limited demand.
Helicopter tape stays put on the race cars attaining speeds of 245 for 500
miles. (Helicopter tape was developed for the Hueys in Viet Nam. These
helicopters & the brave crews often encountered tree branches extracting and
deploying soldiers. Rotors were being destroyed hence the development of
Helicopter Tape, duct tape would not work. We also got Super Glue from Nam.)

I was wrong on the cost I provided. Here is the list, provided by a friend
who supplies race teams. Most Indy cars use this product to seal most body
panels for qualifying set up. The tape is removed for practice & race mode.
Most teams keep the nose and radiator inlets covered with helicopter tape to
help with debris. Here is the pricing:

ALL 8 MIL:
3M-24346(8672-1) 1" x 36 yds $46.23/rl
3M-39347(8672-2) 2" x 36 yds 87.44/rl
3M-30753(8672-4) 4" x 36 yds 175.88/rl
3M-67670(8672-6) 6" x 36 yds 252.33/rl
3M-67671(8672-12) 12" x 36 yds 504.65/rl
3M-8672-18 18" x 36 yds 685.94/rl

Here is the pricing for the paint protection:
SCOTCHCAL PAINT PROTECTION TAPE-NON YELLOWING 6 MIL
3M-84802 2" X 40 yds $ 89.00/r
3M-84804 4" x 40 yds 174.00/rl
3M-84806 6" x 40 yds 304.65/rl
3M-84812 12" x 40 yds 609.28/rl

I hope this helps clarify your confusion of Duct Tape vs. Helicopter Tape.

Indy, the track rat, Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: TCM Design and Drafting [mailto:info at tcmdesigns.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:07 AM
To: dave at damardirect.com; mshortt at comcast.net; 'Paul Timko'
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?

http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sp&pid=43 I should hope you

can get all you want for that price. Check this link. You can buy it by the 
box of 18 rolls for less than $140 or hell $8.00per roll
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave McManus" 
To: ; "'Paul Timko'" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?

> True story! I can get all you want. 2" wide roll with a diameter of
> conventional duct tape, costs about 125-150.00/roll.
>
> Let me know how many rolls & desired width. It also comes in colors.
> Earls carries it as well.
>
> Dave
> Indy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mshortt at comcast.net [mailto:mshortt at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 07:48 PM
> To: Paul Timko
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>
> We used to use a product known as "Helicopter Tape" supposely used on the
> leading edge of rotary blades.
> Upside- it's tough as nails and takes several years (race cars-ha ha ha ) 
> to
> turn a slight yellowish tint,
> Downside - make sure you put it where you like it, it's MF to get off, 
> heat
> gun is the best option.
>
> Michael Shortt
> 71 #1660
> Savannah, GA
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Paul Timko" 
>
>> 3M makes a thick clear plastic product for protecting your car. I think 
>> it
>
>> is called Scotchgard Paint Protection Film
>>
>> Paul
>> #9270
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:42 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>
>>
>> > Anyone on the List know where to get the material that car mfg's are
> using
>> > to put on new cars that are being shipped to protect them from damage?
>> >
>> > In the last year or so I've seen it on the top and sides of NEW cars
>> > being transported on carriers.....Looks like its easy on and off and a
>> > good substitute for front end and bottom rear quarter panels to protect
>> > from the usual rock damage during competition.
>> >
>> >
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