[DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?

John Bentley (jab) jab at cisco.com
Tue Sep 5 17:48:23 EDT 2006 

Alright, who started this crap?  Was that you Michael? :)  And you guys
used to give ME crap.....  Brian makes me look like Ghandi.

Brian, we need you out here for the Silver State event.  Put your S.A.W.
down and pack your bags man.  You can bring your class-three's to
Nevada!  I'll buy your race gas for the event.

JB - only 9 days left till Ely


 

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of TCM Design and Drafting
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:30 PM
To: Pantera International Forum
Subject: Fw: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TCM Design and Drafting" <info at tcmdesigns.com>
To: <dave at damardirect.com>; <mshortt at comcast.net>; "'Paul Timko'" 
<thedrol at pobox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?


> Mr. Indy the Track Rat Dave,
>   It is you that chose to pick a fight with a bull. My statement about
my 
> x-wife was to let you no you sounded like a chic. And to be quite
frank 
> about it, you still do.... I am sorry you don't want your car to
perform 
> as a race car. I was hoping, maybe one day, we would end this on the 
> track... Your hundred and fifty dollar roll of chopper tape vs my
paint... 
> Issues, get a life, all I am doing is pushing your buttons.... Oh and
one 
> more thing, any, and I do mean any, contingency sticker will stay on
your 
> car at 245mph and they are free....
> Grasshopper ;-)~
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave McManus" <Dave at damardirect.com>
> To: "'TCM Design and Drafting'" <info at tcmdesigns.com>; 
> <mshortt at comcast.net>; "'Paul Timko'" <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>
>
>> TCM:
>>
>> WOW!
>> First, "Listen Up" is a phrase commonly used and often replaces
"could I
>> have your attention, please". It is often used in large gatherings,
>> meetings, locker rooms and forums. Sorry you were not able to get
past 
>> the
>> greeting and took it as a negative comment that reminded you of your 
>> x-wife
>> and the trauma in the shoe store.
>>
>> Second, I do not have a desire to drive 245 mph in a Pantera.
Evidently 
>> you
>> were not able to see the point of the message. The topic was about a 
>> clear
>> paint protection film, conformable polyurethane and using it on our
cars.
>> The purpose of the reply to your comment was to differentiate cloth
duct
>> tape from conformable polyurethane. The speed issue was merely a
point of
>> reference and a testament that it stays put on a race car. Just
because 
>> my
>> car and a race car have seat belts, I don't expect my car to perform
as a
>> race car.
>>
>> Good luck with your issues.
>>
>> DM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TCM Design and Drafting [mailto:info at tcmdesigns.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:03 AM
>> To: dave at damardirect.com; mshortt at comcast.net; 'Paul Timko'
>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>
>> Ok, if you need to justify that you need a 140.00 roll of duct tape
on a 
>> car
>>
>> that is not going to travel at 245 mph for a split second much less
>> 500miles. Be my guest. I was never confused with the matter. I too
have
>> spent my time in Army Choppers, I know the use. I do not know of any 
>> racer
>> here that has a certified 245 mph car.... Hooowaaa... One thing is
for 
>> sure,
>>
>> you corrected your pricing... I am sure others that might consider
using
>> that tape, surely appreciates it. Now if your panties were twisted,
good,
>> maybe it will motivate you to push your car to 245 mph. I didn't send
the
>> link as a discredit, but if that is the way you took it, slow down, I
am 
>> not
>>
>> carrying a 7.62x39. I am guilty of not reading all the post on the
topic, 
>> so
>>
>> I stepped in at the wrong time. The last time someone told me to
listen 
>> as
>> you did, I divorced her. The funny thing was, it was a price
comparison 
>> on
>> shoes. Trying to justify spending almost $1000.00 on a freaking pair
of
>> shoes. I don't know you, so I could care less. To referrence a .22 in
>> comparison to a 5.56 aka.223 or Oranges and Apples, come to South 
>> Florida. I
>>
>> already have the oranges you bring the apples. I will give you the
best
>> example you can imagine from one round to the next and the pros and
cons 
>> to
>> each. Don't take that as a threat, it is an invitation. I have a
range 
>> that
>> will allow me to shoot any round and at full auto. Now with all of
that
>> said, I honor Vets of all conflicts, I am assuming you are a Nam Vet.

>> Wars,
>> pollitics, religion, etc. have nothing to do with this list. It
always 
>> seems
>>
>> to bring out the drama.
>> TCM
>> aka Brian
>> aka Gypsy
>> aka Grasshopper
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave McManus" <Dave at damardirect.com>
>> To: "'TCM Design and Drafting'" <info at tcmdesigns.com>;
>> <mshortt at comcast.net>; "'Paul Timko'" <thedrol at pobox.com>
>> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:03 PM
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>
>>
>>> TCM:
>>>
>>> Listen up!
>>> You are comparing apples to oranges! Or maybe a.22 caliber pistol to
an
>>> M-16.
>>>
>>> Helicopter Tape is NOT Duct Tape or "Speed Tape - Racer's Tape" from
the
>>> web
>>> site you provided. I called them, they confirmed their "Speed Tape -
>>> Racer's
>>> Tape" is Duct Tape in colors, also referred to as 200 M.P.H. tape.
They 
>>> do
>>> not handle Helicopter tape because of the cost and limited demand.
>>> Helicopter tape stays put on the race cars attaining speeds of 245
for 
>>> 500
>>> miles. (Helicopter tape was developed for the Hueys in Viet Nam.
These
>>> helicopters & the brave crews often encountered tree branches
extracting
>>> and
>>> deploying soldiers. Rotors were being destroyed hence the
development of
>>> Helicopter Tape, duct tape would not work. We also got Super Glue
from
>>> Nam.)
>>>
>>> I was wrong on the cost I provided. Here is the list, provided by a 
>>> friend
>>> who supplies race teams. Most Indy cars use this product to seal
most 
>>> body
>>> panels for qualifying set up. The tape is removed for practice &
race
>>> mode.
>>> Most teams keep the nose and radiator inlets covered with helicopter

>>> tape
>>> to
>>> help with debris. Here is the pricing:
>>>
>>> ALL 8 MIL:
>>> 3M-24346(8672-1)    1" x 36 yds  $46.23/rl
>>> 3M-39347(8672-2)    2" x 36 yds   87.44/rl
>>> 3M-30753(8672-4)    4" x 36 yds  175.88/rl
>>> 3M-67670(8672-6)    6" x 36 yds   252.33/rl
>>> 3M-67671(8672-12) 12" x 36 yds  504.65/rl
>>> 3M-8672-18              18" x 36 yds  685.94/rl
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the pricing for the paint protection:
>>> SCOTCHCAL PAINT PROTECTION TAPE-NON YELLOWING 6 MIL
>>> 3M-84802    2" X 40 yds $ 89.00/r
>>> 3M-84804    4" x 40 yds    174.00/rl
>>> 3M-84806    6" x 40 yds     304.65/rl
>>> 3M-84812   12" x 40 yds    609.28/rl
>>>
>>> I hope this helps clarify your confusion of Duct Tape vs. Helicopter

>>> Tape.
>>>
>>> Indy, the track rat, Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TCM Design and Drafting [mailto:info at tcmdesigns.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:07 AM
>>> To: dave at damardirect.com; mshortt at comcast.net; 'Paul Timko'
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>>
>>> http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sp&pid=43  I should
hope
>>> you
>>>
>>> can get all you want for that price. Check this link. You can buy it
by
>>> the
>>> box of 18 rolls for less than $140 or hell $8.00per roll
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dave McManus" <Dave at damardirect.com>
>>> To: <mshortt at comcast.net>; "'Paul Timko'" <thedrol at pobox.com>
>>> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:11 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>>
>>>
>>>> True story! I can get all you want. 2" wide roll with a diameter of
>>>> conventional duct tape, costs about 125-150.00/roll.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know how many rolls & desired width. It also comes in
colors.
>>>> Earls carries it as well.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>> Indy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mshortt at comcast.net [mailto:mshortt at comcast.net]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 07:48 PM
>>>> To: Paul Timko
>>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>>>
>>>> We used to use a product known as "Helicopter Tape" supposely used
on 
>>>> the
>>>> leading edge of rotary blades.
>>>> Upside- it's tough as nails and takes several years (race cars-ha
ha 
>>>> ha )
>>>> to
>>>> turn a slight yellowish tint,
>>>> Downside - make sure you put it where you like it, it's MF to get
off,
>>>> heat
>>>> gun is the best option.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>> 71   #1660
>>>> Savannah, GA
>>>>
>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>>>> From: "Paul Timko" <thedrol at pobox.com>
>>>>
>>>>> 3M makes a thick clear plastic product for protecting your car. I 
>>>>> think
>>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> is called Scotchgard Paint Protection Film
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> #9270
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci"
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Anyone on the List know where to get the material that car mfg's
are
>>>> using
>>>>> > to put on new cars that are being shipped to protect them from 
>>>>> > damage?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In the last year or so I've seen it on the top and sides of NEW
cars
>>>>> > being transported on carriers.....Looks like its easy on and off
and 
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > good substitute for front end and bottom rear quarter panels to
>>>>> > protect
>>>>> > from the usual rock damage during competition.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mad Dawg Antenucci
>>>>> > Team Pantera Racing
>>>>> > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
>>>>> > www.teampanteraracing.com
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