[DeTomaso] Once again; proof POCA members are smarter than manufacturer's reps...

Sat Dec 1 16:03:11 CST 2007

Dear Jim and all,

I had Summit return the cruise control I had returned to them (I called them after getting Jim's note, below and said I wanted to give it one more try and it arrived back here again this week).  Today (just before it started snowing) I reinstalled it and used the switch positions Jim recommended.  Guess what...after checking and rechecking everything with the Audiovox guy on the phone who assured me the switches were in the correct position and still finding the unit inoperative, now using Jim's approach IT WORKS PERFECTLY!!!!  Since I already had ordered the optional vacuum canister I used it in the system, too, and now I can cruise along at speeds as low as 18 mph!

Thanks to all who assisted me with this thing--I've been fussing with it for months.  If only I had remembered Pantera Owners generally know more than most of the manufacturers of the parts we use on our cars.  I would have saved me a ton of time.

Well, one more indicator that Las Vegas is in my very near future!

Sincerely,

Chris
3846

From: jimgray at cableone.net
To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:52:59 -0600

Chris,

Yes, I did
remove the jumper.  If you have a
problem using my settings it will be in #7 because I had a different type
switch I wanted to use.  My switch
mounts right on the turn signal stalk and looks almost factory.  It had the opposite on/off settings as
the Audiovox unit.  I’m reasonably
sure the settings I sent you will work.

Let me
know if you have problems.

Jim Gray

-----Original
Message-----

From: Christopher Kimball
[mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com]

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007
11:15 AM

To: Jim Gray

Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] The latest
on the non-cruise cruise control

Dear
Jim, 

After giving it much thought, I decided since your dip switch selections were
so much different than what the Audiovox guy told me to use, I'd try yours!

I contacted Summit and they are going to send back to me the unit I just 
returned to them so I can try the new positions to see if I can get it to
work.  I figure I'm only risking another $8.00 of shipping charges if it
still won't work (plus an hour or so more labor...).

One question:  Did you remove the little "jumper" from the
cruise control unit?   I think it's supposed to be removed for manual
transmission.  I removed mine, and I don't know where I put the little
jumper thing, so my hope is yours is removed, too.

Let me know, thanks.

Sincerely,

Chris

3846

> From: jimgray at cableone.net

> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com

> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control

> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:26:10 -0600

> 

> Chris,

> 

> Make sure of your dip switch settings. I used the tach signal off my MSD

> box to control the cruise control and here's the settings I used. 1=on,

> 2=on, 3=off, 4=off, 5=off, 6=off and 7=off.

> 

> Good luck

> Jim Gray

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On

> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball

> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:38 PM

> To: Doug1; Will Kooiman; 'Pantera List Serve'

> Subject: [DeTomaso] The latest on the non-cruise cruise control

> 

> 

> Well, I hooked up the vacuum storage cannister and the cruise control
still

> didn't work. It tried to, in the sense it pulled the throttle when I
tapped

> the "resume/accel" button, but it wouldn't hold the speed
constant at all.

> Reversing the hoses on the cannister caused the thing to not work at all,

> indicating my first hunch on where to hook the hoses was correct.

> 

> The wiring has been checked and re-checked and this is the second unit I

> tried (the first wouldn't even respond at all, with the same wiring
hookup)

> so with much consternation, I took it out and sent it back to Summit for a

> cheerful refund.

> 

> Of course, what they don't refund is the hours and hours spent

> trouble-shooting and trying to figure out what was wrong in the first
place!

> (Thanks again, Doug, for all your help with the wiring check-up).

> 

> I've heard there are fully electric cruise controls available which are

> better than the vacuum type, but since they seem to cost almost three
times

> as much as this one did, I'll have to sell a few more things on ebay
before

> I can delve into that. (The truth is, my "Pantera account" is in
a $1600

> deficit position right now, so it may be a long while until I get back to

> the cruise control issue. Keeping track of all the Pantera expenses to the

> penny--that's what I get for marrying a CPA!)

> 

> I'm considering making the drive to Vegas in April for the big shindig,
but

> I'd for sure want cruise control in before I did a trip that long.

> 

> Sincerely,

> 

> Chris

> #3846

> 

> 

> 

> > From: doug1 at gtcinternet.com

> > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; wkooiman at earthlink.net;
detomaso at realbig.com

> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question

> > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:09:26 -0800

> >

> > Whoa Chris,

> >

> > Is this a vacuum motor (meant to pull the throttle linkage when

> vacuum is

> > applied) or is this just a vacuum storage canister. If it's the
former,

> > then Will's comments don't apply. If it's the latter, they do apply.
I

> > thought you got this from Audiovox to replace the electric motor that

> pulls

> > the throttle linkage.

> >

> > Doug Braun

> > blue 73L #5505

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com

> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball

> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:34 AM

> > To: Will Kooiman; 'Pantera List Serve'

> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks, I'll give it a try. Worst case is I'll try it one way, and if

> that

> > doesn't work, just reverse it!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Chris

> > #3846

> >

> > > From: wkooiman at earthlink.net

> > > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com

> > > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question

> > > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:52:13 -0600

> > >

> > > That would be my guess.

> > >

> > > A vacuum canister is pretty simple. One side goes to a vacuum
source,

> > > usually the intake manifold. The other goes to whatever you want
to

> > provide

> > > the vacuum source to.

> > >

> > > The only difference is the manifold side should have a one-way valve
in

> > it.

> > > It allows air to be sucked out, but not pushed back in. The side
that

> > goes

> > > to your cruise control should be wide open.

> > >

> > > That way, the manifold creates a vacuum inside the canister, and
it

> isn't

> > > allowed to drain.

> > >

> > > You could probably blow in the AMP, and air would come out the
MAN. If

> > you

> > > blow in the MAN, it should be plugged.

> > >

> > > That's the way I understand it anyway.

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Christopher Kimball

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:26 AM

> > > To: Pantera List Serve

> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] curise control vacuum cannister question

> > >

> > >

> > > I just received the vacuum cannister for my Audiovox cruise
control, but

> > it

> > > came with no directions. There are simply two nipples to which
to hook

> > the

> > > vacuum hose, one marked "MAN" the other marked
"AMP"

> > >

> > > I'm assuming the "MAN" means that's the one to which I
attach the hose

> > > coming from the manifold. Maybe "AMP" means amplified,
as in more

> vacuum

> > > which goes to the cruise control unit.

> > >

> > > Can anyone confirm this?

> > >

> > > Thanks a million,

> > >

> > > Chris

> > > #3846

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