[DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction

[Larry - Ohio Time Corp.]

I would also speculate that most of us growing up were into road racing 
rather then drag or NASCAR racing. Sports car people know sports cars. I saw 
more Pantera at Mid-Ohio and Watkins Glen then on the street.

I am still amazed when some see my junker all covered up with crap on top of 
it and say "hey that's a Pantera".

Larry - Cleveland


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "Donny Williams" <donnylee at ccwebster.net>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction


> Dear Donny,
>
>            You wrote:
>
>> "For that reason, I theorize most car guys simply just did not grow up 
>> around them  (I am an exception, as many of us owners today are, and that 
>> is why I have one now).  A Pantera is not like having had two of your 
>> neighbors who had 427 Vettes when you were riding your bike around the 
>> street.  Or Billy who had that LS-1 Chevelle, Cuda, Challenger, Camaro, 
>> in High School that went claimed undeafeted street fighting it.  A 
>> Pantera was never regular running down a Cuda or a Ram Air 4 GTO down 
>> Woodward avenue. Pantera's were never parked at the Malt shops with Shoe 
>> Box Chevy's.....  So it is my theory the Pantera was clearly absent the 
>> exposure of what people grew up around for the most part, and has pretty 
>> much kept the car in the dark through the ages.   People in the market 
>> for exotic likely wanted the status of a Ferrari, or Porche, rather then 
>> a newer unknown mark for less money at the time.  That still may hold 
>> true today."
>
>
> $$$$$$$$     You have an interesting observation.  It may be a significant 
> factor that is often overlooked in the standard explanation for the lower 
> valuation of the Pantera vis a vis Ferraris, Shelbys, Porsche, etc.   The 
> standard review is that  the Pantera isn't in that ball park because: 1) 
> no racing heritage nor wins  2) no pedigree  3) [I can't remember the 
> other ones!]       Anyhow, if there was never a social context in America 
> where a critical mass of young males perceived them to be desireable over 
> other cars, then as time goes on......Hemi Cudas and Corvettes and GT350 
> go up, while the unknown and unappreciated Pantera languishes.    The 
> other observation, that at the time, they were relatively expensive and 
> were much less common than the other 70s muscle cars supports their 
> absence from the "scene" or the "street" where GTOs, Corvettes, Cudas and 
> Camaros made their reputations.
>                    Whatever the socio-cultural-psycho-economic 
> {BS}phenomenon one considers, the Pantera is *still* my favorite car and I 
> intend to keep mine for a good long while.
>
>                              Gitcher motor runnin',  Chuck Engles
>
>
>
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