[DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction

[Ken Green]

Donny,
   
        Fortunately, not everyone has the same taste, and not even all the Pantera owners have the same taste.  I think most the regulars on the forum are the "form follows function" folks, and we don't have much use for heavily styled cars.  Chrysler seems to have carved out a niche with buyers who want to stand out because of the different styling, and I guess it works for them.  A lot of people don't understand why we want to become part of the machine, especially when that means even a few seconds of contortions to get in.  A lot of people just don't feel the engine, the road, the suspension, etc.  They just want to be comfortable and what they consider cool.
   
  Ken

Donny Williams <donnylee at ccwebster.net> wrote:
  What Chuck and I omitted to write in the Thesis is these big spending MFers who love Taxi Cabs with Hemis, that handle on their door handles, with their big blocks, just have not a clue what they are missing out in the Detomaso Pantera world!

Once you go Pantera Baby you will never go back not at any price for the Taxi with the Big block, sparking from the door handles! The guy that stepped up to the 45K plate for the yellow 72 Pantera got the best deal at BJ........ Just my opinion.......
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mad Dog Antenucci 
To: Donny Williams ; Charles Engles 
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction


Thesis my ass! ;-]> Okay I agree with whatever you and Doc meant.
MD

Donny Williams wrote:
Chuck you pretty much hit the nail on the head and finished the chapter of 
my thesis! Hahahaha!

Donny
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Engles" 
To: "Donny Williams" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction


> Dear Donny,
>
> You wrote:
>
>> "For that reason, I theorize most car guys simply just did not grow up 
>> around them (I am an exception, as many of us owners today are, and that 
>> is why I have one now). A Pantera is not like having had two of your 
>> neighbors who had 427 Vettes when you were riding your bike around the 
>> street. Or Billy who had that LS-1 Chevelle, Cuda, Challenger, Camaro, 
>> in High School that went claimed undeafeted street fighting it. A 
>> Pantera was never regular running down a Cuda or a Ram Air 4 GTO down 
>> Woodward avenue. Pantera's were never parked at the Malt shops with Shoe 
>> Box Chevy's..... So it is my theory the Pantera was clearly absent the 
>> exposure of what people grew up around for the most part, and has pretty 
>> much kept the car in the dark through the ages. People in the market 
>> for exotic likely wanted the status of a Ferrari, or Porche, rather then 
>> a newer unknown mark for less money at the time. That still may hold 
>> true today."
>
>
> $$$$$$$$ You have an interesting observation. It may be a significant 
> factor that is often overlooked in the standard explanation for the lower 
> valuation of the Pantera vis a vis Ferraris, Shelbys, Porsche, etc. The 
> standard review is that the Pantera isn't in that ball park because: 1) 
> no racing heritage nor wins 2) no pedigree 3) [I can't remember the 
> other ones!] Anyhow, if there was never a social context in America 
> where a critical mass of young males perceived them to be desireable over 
> other cars, then as time goes on......Hemi Cudas and Corvettes and GT350 
> go up, while the unknown and unappreciated Pantera languishes. The 
> other observation, that at the time, they were relatively expensive and 
> were much less common than the other 70s muscle cars supports their 
> absence from the "scene" or the "street" where GTOs, Corvettes, Cudas and 
> Camaros made their reputations.
> Whatever the socio-cultural-psycho-economic 
> {BS}phenomenon one considers, the Pantera is *still* my favorite car and I 
> intend to keep mine for a good long while.
>
> Gitcher motor runnin', Chuck Engles
>
>
>
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