[DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction
scott black
timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 26 23:44:44 EST 2007
Rarity is one of the primary drivers of value. Until the total number of Panteras bult can be officially documented, the cars will suffer in resale price. A range, approximate, etc., will not due. "One of fourteen", etc. is a common statement with muscle cars, Ferrari's, etc.
Verifying, or at least establishing a pegged number is the single most important item that will boost the values of the cars.
Scott Black
Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
Thesis my ass! ;-]> Okay I agree with whatever you and Doc meant.
MD
Donny Williams wrote:
Chuck you pretty much hit the nail on the head and finished the chapter of
my thesis! Hahahaha!
Donny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Engles"
To: "Donny Williams"
Cc:
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [NPC] Big dollars at BJ auction
> Dear Donny,
>
> You wrote:
>
>> "For that reason, I theorize most car guys simply just did not grow up
>> around them (I am an exception, as many of us owners today are, and that
>> is why I have one now). A Pantera is not like having had two of your
>> neighbors who had 427 Vettes when you were riding your bike around the
>> street. Or Billy who had that LS-1 Chevelle, Cuda, Challenger, Camaro,
>> in High School that went claimed undeafeted street fighting it. A
>> Pantera was never regular running down a Cuda or a Ram Air 4 GTO down
>> Woodward avenue. Pantera's were never parked at the Malt shops with Shoe
>> Box Chevy's..... So it is my theory the Pantera was clearly absent the
>> exposure of what people grew up around for the most part, and has pretty
>> much kept the car in the dark through the ages. People in the market
>> for exotic likely wanted the status of a Ferrari, or Porche, rather then
>> a newer unknown mark for less money at the time. That still may hold
>> true today."
>
>
> $$$$$$$$ You have an interesting observation. It may be a significant
> factor that is often overlooked in the standard explanation for the lower
> valuation of the Pantera vis a vis Ferraris, Shelbys, Porsche, etc. The
> standard review is that the Pantera isn't in that ball park because: 1)
> no racing heritage nor wins 2) no pedigree 3) [I can't remember the
> other ones!] Anyhow, if there was never a social context in America
> where a critical mass of young males perceived them to be desireable over
> other cars, then as time goes on......Hemi Cudas and Corvettes and GT350
> go up, while the unknown and unappreciated Pantera languishes. The
> other observation, that at the time, they were relatively expensive and
> were much less common than the other 70s muscle cars supports their
> absence from the "scene" or the "street" where GTOs, Corvettes, Cudas and
> Camaros made their reputations.
> Whatever the socio-cultural-psycho-economic
> {BS}phenomenon one considers, the Pantera is *still* my favorite car and I
> intend to keep mine for a good long while.
>
> Gitcher motor runnin', Chuck Engles
>
>
>
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